the word rapture is not used, but the concept is, fyi not all "Christians" get raptured, just the ones that are pure, holy, and blameless %26amp; are awaitin the return of the Lord Jesus Christ...there are verses in Matthew 25 stating "one will be taken and the other LEFT"...
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I THESS 4:17,18 good reference by truebeliever
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Where is there proof of a rapture in the book of revelations? Wont God punish those who twist his words?I THESSALONIANS 4:17,18
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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If you are looking for some kind of logical proof, than you won't find it. The Book of Revelations is a prophesy revealed by God to John the Beloved and is merely an interpretation of the vision given to him about the last days of the earth. There is a somewhat conflicting account of the same thing given in Daniel. Both are somewhat cryptic and hard to understand... it is difficult to put sublimely spiritual thoughts and experiences into words, and we can't be factually sure of what the vision contained, only what John could describe about it on paper.
I beleive God will punish those who twist his words but it is difficult for a man to decide which of the different translations of the Bible as well as other scriptures like the Book of Mormon and Qu'ran is God's word and which is not. We must not pass judgement on things we know nothing about... and we must recoginize that one man's truth may be false to another. Also the quote in Revelations about "not adding onto this book" only apply to the Book of Revelations and not the Bible or scripture in general because the Bible is a book invented (or compiled) by the Catholics in the late 1500's and was not around in the time of Jesus.
The only way to find out if there is a rapture or if something is the word of God or not is to pray in all sincerity and with an open heart for a confirmation of that truth.Where is there proof of a rapture in the book of revelations? Wont God punish those who twist his words?
no God wrote any books currently compiled as the bible, all were written by men. So none of the words are God's words.
its not in revelations. The word rapture is not in the bible. The word they confuse you with is the greek word harpazo meaning caught up. We shall all be caught up at the last trump. "last means last trump". Matthew chp 13 in the parable of the wheat and the tares is revealed by Jesus the tares are the children of the wicked one. It says the children of the wicked shall be bound into bundles first. So the first to go are the bad guys. Some teachers are saying that there congregation will go first. That is what you call deceptive.
Yes, God will punish those who twist His words. That's why He told us not to add on or change the words of the Bible.
Jesus never mentions the rapture. Its just something that these gung-ho babtists made up so you will be good for a day!
There is not any. It is an interpretation of Matthew 24:40-41 and 1 Corinthians 15:52.
I don't think he'll punish those who twist his words. One thing everyone seems to forget is that the bible, every word, was written by man. It's the translation of a divine, perfect message by an imperfect creature. Thus, any retelling of God's intentions through the language of man is not going to be 100% acurate to his (or her) intended meaning.
1. If one dumps a country bucket of sod into the river, wont the punishment be floating deceased fish and aquatic life.
2. so its easy to imagine that if a god or goddess bestowed upon you the ability to prophesize, and you distorted the words, wouldnt they beseech you and give another that job.
3. so with every interpretation of the good book, that 'thee' god Yeshua/Jesuss speaks of, it is not hard to assume that that god will beeseech ALL of those books.
4. what is likely is for that god to send another way, by another messenger, to get those words out again. Only this time he must be wiser and tacticfull, in order that no distortions come to his good words.
brother,what you said is true there is no third coming only second coming.brother go through Mathew 24.moreover just look at apostles or 1st century Christians they went through great trials.Do yo remember what Jesus told in Luke 22:31"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. 32?But I have pleaded in prayer for you, Simon, that your faith should not fail. So when you have repented and turned to me again, strengthen your brothers.”
Brother there are so many verses like that .I.don't know if someone pluck my nail or put me in fire,then what will be my response.But one thing i know if he want me to go through that then he will give me the strength with it.
brother ,don't worry to much about other Do god's will and ask god to show your shortcomings.Pray for others,if you have real burden for it.and leave the judgment and punishment part to Lord.God will Bless you.
In Revelation there is no passage that suggest a Rapture, but there are in other places. It is not a twisting of words per say. More or an area of study. I choose to take a wait and see approach to the Rapture. There are verse that support the idea, but there is no real basis for it as far as i can tell. Though I still have ALOT to learn about the Bible. :))
Here are verses that have been used to prove the thinking on the subject of the Rapture.
Remember also that God has told us to come and reason together.
And Pr 27:17 says
"as iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." It is good to debate an issue, even a biblical one.
Consider this
Mat 24:36-41 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed
1Th 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1Th 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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