Wednesday, February 15, 2012

If God sent a prophet to say Christians have twisted His word and are wrong, would you listen?

The sad truth is that if Chist himself walked in you house and announced himself, or God spoke from the heavens , Man in his pride and arrogence would probably claim it was a trick or special effects. Man is flawed and arrogentIf God sent a prophet to say Christians have twisted His word and are wrong, would you listen?
so true, but I asked a question simliar, and I got very different answers. NOTE my delivery was a little harsh, I was having a bad day.



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I don't think it's fair that you address it to all Christians. I'm not sure if that was your intent, maybe not. But if it was, I'd like to bring out the point that there are many religions within Christianity, not all are blind to what the Bible really says.

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If God sent a prophet to say Christians have twisted His word and are wrong, would you listen?
Your choice for best answer doesn't even answer the question. But, you are the judge.

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Jesus was a liberal? Hardedardar! You really think a liberal now is the same as a liberal 2,000 years ago?

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If God sent a prophet to say Christians have twisted His word and are wrong, would you listen?
Jesus told us in advance not WHEN, but he did say HOW he would come again so there will not be any confusion.Now if you phrased your question to say that if we lived back in the time of Christ's first coming, would we believe him or would we think he was a nut, that might have answered you query.

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Yes, God definitely did do this already. And yes, I listened and continue to listen.
No.



Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
perhaps u should rephrase your question



"if god returned JESUS to say Christians have twisted His word and are wrong, would you listen?"
i would have to pray on it first and wait for an answer from God and then see
Every heretic since Marcion has said exactly that haven't they...errr..reformer I mean.
He already did in 1820, and yes I did listen.
How would you know God himself sent the " prophet " when it is clear the demon has many faces . If in fact it were God , I'd do everything I was told to do . So far Christian churches have been proved to have done what benefit the church and not mankind , nor the words of prophets . Not totally ! Research
NO! Paul said if anyone or even an angel came %26amp; told you another Gospel, don't believe them %26amp; let them be acursed."
Prophets were before Jesus came. Since Jesus there were

the Apostles. We already have God's word, that is the

Holy Bible. Many twist his word, but most in ignorance,

because they don't really know it.
If that's the case, I'm the prophet. :) And no, they're not listening.
People believe what they want to believe until forced by God to the contrary. I've never seen an exception, including me.





The mormons posting here I offer as further proof :)
God Did!!!! that's why it bugs you sooooo much

just let it be.

leave it alone. I believe in Jesus.

just be open minded read a bible.

just to see what can it hurt.
NO!



"Paul, an apostle (not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead), and all the brethren who are with me,



...I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. BUT EVEN IF WE, OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL TO YOU THAT WHAT WE HAVE PREACHED TO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we have said before, SO NOW I SAY AGAIN, IF ANY ONE PREACHES ANY OTHER GOSPEL TO YOU THAT WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.... But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ." -- Taken from Galatians, chapter 1 in the Bible.



"And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the prophetic words of this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone removes any of the words of this prophetic book, God will remove that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book. The Bible, Revelation 22:18 and 19
the spirit of GOD within any believer will be able to decipher if that prophet is from GOD or not.
most people that are real christians will tell you that God is good and holy and righteous without telling you why how come or anything else that will not help u because u have to prove it wrong for yourself,if you can say the bible (king james version)contradicts itself you should show all and use the bible as toliet paper ,however some of the bible is devine and foresees the future that part cannot be proved or disproved ,and that is where faith comes into play,if it was right before what do you think of it today
He already did. http://www.mormon.org
No, they wouldn't, because any prophet god sent today, would be thrown into a nut house faster than you can say muhammad.
Nobody has listened to me yet. :(
Actually Jesus said He will return! So we'll find out won't we? (no other prophets will come, only Jesus to take up His believers to Heaven!)



We'll find out who really are believers and who are not, won't we?
Christians wont even believe that if they read it in their own bible.



THE MESSIAH ACCORDING TO JUDAISM

One of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of "Hebrew Christian" missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.

THE HEBREW ROOTS OF THE WORD "MESSIAH"

The Hebrew word for "Messiah" is "Moshiach -- ." The literal and proper translation of this word is "anointed," which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or some-thing with oil. (I Samuel 10:1-2) It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1).

THE CRITERIA TO BE FULFILLED BY THE JEWISH MESSIAH

In an accurate translation of the Jewish Scriptures, the word "Moshiach" is never translated as "Messiah," but as "anointed."1Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by G-d to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.

These specific criteria are as follows:

1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy 17:15, Numbers 24:17)

2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendent of both King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalm 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon. (I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)

3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)

4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)

5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)

6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)

All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37:24-28:

"And My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant...and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever."

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, he cannot be the Messiah.

WHY JESUS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE JEWISH MESSIAH

A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus' genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly state that a person's genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one's physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.

There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus' genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus' mother). For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent "sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah" (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph's genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.

Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus' genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke's genealogy is that of Jesus' mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one's genealogy through one's mother, there would be the additional problem that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon's brother, and not through Solomon himself as required according to the prophesy in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.

The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled -- neither during Jesus' time nor since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a "Second Coming" are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.

To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.

The Christian understanding of the Messiah and Jesus differs greatly from the Jewish biblical view. These differences developed as a result of the Church's influence during the time of the Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea that issued the Nicene Creed in 325 CE.

The Messiah was never meant to be an object of worship. His primary mission and accomplishment is to bring world peace and to fill the world with the knowledge and awareness of one G-d.



1 Some form of the Hebrew word "Moshiach -- " is used over 150 times in the Jewish Bible. Christians consistently translate this word as anointed, except in the ninth chapter of Daniel. In this chapter missionaries deviate from this and other correct translations in an attempt to prove that the Messiah came before the destruction of the Second Temple. Rather than speaking about "the Messiah," when read in context and with a correct translation this chapter clearly speaks about two different "anointed" subjects hundreds of years apart: a) The first is the anointed King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1) who granted permission to the Jews to return and build the Second Temple 52 years "7 weeks of years" after the destruction of the First Temple; b) The second is the anointed priesthood (Leviticus 4:3) that was terminated 434 years "62 weeks of years" later.

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Several current religions teach that, just not in those words. Could you have found a better way to ask this question? Wow, I hope you don't fall on that sword.
No, because the Bible preaches about false prophets, and that many will believe them, but they are not to be believed. I believe in what the Bible says, and God will NOT contradict His word.
he did! prophet Mohamed, Islam!

and i listened and convinced
I would listen. I like to hear what people have to say. I learn %26amp; grow this way.
I would be VERY careful as the Bible warns us about false prophets. The Bible also says that among members of the body of Christ, there will be prophets (true ones). There have been many true and many false throughout the years. I would base my conclusions on the Bible and on prayer about the prophet's teachings.
What a unique idea!!!



Did you know that the majority of protestant denominations, including the Church of England, were formed based on that idea?



How do you suppose those tens of thousands of different Christian cults came to be?



How about those Muslims? That's the foundation of Islam. Oddly enough, even Muslims can't agree on what God really meant to say.



But, it's all nonsense as evidenced by the utter chaos the bible causes with its multitude of interpretations.
The bible teaches to watch out for false prophets.
I think the use of "twisted" is unfortunate. Everyone has the right to listen to whomever he or she wants to, and you have the right to examine the motives and results of anyone's preaching. By their fruits, in other words, you shall know them (whether a prophet is true or false/Matthew 7:15-16). I don't mind listening to people of different religions, but if it is argumentative and leads to terrorism or mass suicide, I would stay as far away from that person as I could. I like making friends in different religions and count friends who have been Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Protestant, Catholic, and "alternative." I like studying Jewish prayers, Catholic music, and other elements of other religions.
Amen to Juliart!!!!!
The Bible addresses this question in 1 John 4:10 where we are told to not believe every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Your question asks "If God sent a prophet - - -". Your question should be; How can we tell if God sends us a prophet?

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