Thursday, January 26, 2012

Why do christians twist the words of the bible to hate gays?

chrisians who do this are wrongWhy do christians twist the words of the bible to hate gays?
If you don't think the Bible bashes gays, you're the one in denial.
Romans 1:27. "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion." No twisting there, just reading word for word. There is no excuse to "hate" gay people, however, and Christians who do are seriously out of line.Why do christians twist the words of the bible to hate gays?
the Bible specifically lists 3 "abominations": homosexuality, a heart that longs to sin, and a tongue that can't be tamed. most of the people you are refering to as "christians" just bash on the first one because they are usually guilty of one or both of the other 2. and according to the bible an abomination is a sin that can't be forgiven because it's a lifestyle of sin. so, sorry but homos is one of them.
Christians don't hate gays. Homosexuality is a sin and it can be overcome. People can change with effort and by repentance.



1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" That verse clearly states that homosexuality is a sin.Why do christians twist the words of the bible to hate gays?
You said, "unless you can tell me a passage that directly says you are not allowed to be gay...."



here are a couple of verses below. and although we are no longer under the Law, even the New Testament scripture shows that being 'gay' is a sin. it doesn't mean that gay people can't go to heaven, though. if they turn to the Lord, He can take away their sin and forgive them.



Genesis 2:24-25 “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.” Hebrew 13:4 says, “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.”



In Romans 1:26-27 Paul is very specific, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.”



In 1 Corinthians 6:9, Paul wrote, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.”
I don't twist words of the bible to "hate" gays. Hate is something is not even encouraged in the bible. All the bible says is that homosexuality is a sin. Who cares if it is a "sin". I certainly don't...as long as it doesn't effect me....just don't protest in my front lawn :D
I don't hate gays, and I don't twist scriptures... Here is what you were asking for though:



1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Twist the words of the bible? maybe not necessarily hate gays....but it is very clear that the bible was written by a culture that despised homosexuality to the point of abomination. If you want a more sympathetic group, read about the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans.
I agree with you. people use the bible to pump up their beliefs. homophobia has been around forever. but what's funny is that these same bible thumpers who judge homosexuals and claim that they are just obeying what the bible tells them to do. however they must have foroget the verse which says in the book of mark(new testament) which states that if a true believer drinks posioin it will not hurt them. i have never seen a sunday preacher gulp down a cup of strychnine in the name of jesus. also the bible says that if a woman is raped that the raper must marry the woman and pay her father some silver. i often wonder how many preachers if their daughter was raped would glady go along with that one? I doubt it. these bible thumpers are just pick and choose folks. they pick out the verses of the bible that fit their lifestyle and their beliefs and ignore the other ones
Because perception is reality. Get it?



So everyone interprets the words of God into their own and say they are following the bible.

How many christians really understand what God is trying to tell them? Not many because they are learning through what their preachers preach.
...God destroyed a whole city because they were gay and lived immorally... Just saying...



But seriously, people should not "bash" other people. That's just wrong. I mean, I don't exactly agree with their choices, but I'm not gonna go hating on them because of it...



Also, being gay isn't a choice, but choosing to engage in homosexual acts IS a choice.
Time to understand it is not about belief, God or Jesus but about the intolerance, hatred and persecution from those terribly BAD christian attitudes and conduct!!



As soon as Christians rediscover the loving god and start acting like it the problem will cease!!!!



Of course until then christianity will increasingly get called the "Nasty Religion"!!
Marriage



Definition: The union of a man and a woman to live together as husband and wife according to the standard set out in the Holy Scriptures. Marriage is a divine institution. It provides for intimate relationship between husband and wife along with a feeling of security because there is a climate of love and because a personal commitment has been made by each mate. When establishing marriage, Jehovah did so not only to provide a close companion who would be a complement of man but also to make provision for producing more humans and doing so within a family arrangement. Legally registering a marriage relationship that is acceptable to the Christian congregation is required wherever possible.



What does the Bible say about homosexuality?



Rom. 1:24-27: “God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them .?.?. God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.”



1?Tim. 1:9-11: “Law is promulgated, not for a righteous man, but for persons lawless and unruly, ungodly and sinners, .?.?. fornicators, men who lie with males, .?.?. and whatever other thing is in opposition to the healthful teaching according to the glorious good news of the happy God.” (Compare Leviticus 20:13.)



Jude 7: “Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them, after they .?.?. [had] gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.” (The name Sodom has become the basis for the word “sodomy,” which usually designates a homosexual practice. Compare Genesis 19:4, 5, 24,?25.)



What is the attitude of true Christians toward those who have a history of homosexuality?



1?Cor. 6:9-11: “Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men .?.?. will inherit God’s kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean, but you have been sanctified, but you have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.” (Regardless of such a background, if persons now abandon their former unclean practices, apply Jehovah’s righteous standards, and exercise faith in his provision for forgiveness of sins through Christ, they can enjoy a clean standing before God. After reforming, they may be welcomed in the Christian congregation.)
"also its not a choice ..... so GOD must have made them that way."

Best quote all day! :D



And I can see what you mean, but actually, the Bible does in fact condemn gays (just like it condemns anyone that does not fit in to the "norm") Exactly why I find the book a piece of rubbish.

Why should someone have to change just because a book written by humans eons ago told them that their lifestyle is wrong? Ridiculous.
The bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination onto the lord. I'm sorry you can't handle that, therefor feel the need to label those who read you those words as haters. You need to take that up with God, not us. God bless.
Thanks goes out to all the people who have questions and allow me to look up the answer for them. I do not do this for everyone though. I would have a full time job then.



This is being done in the name of Jesus, Jesus when the people who read this message will come to the truth because I know the truth will set them free.



But people who get angry stop it we will not war with you.



AND WE DO NOT HATE GAYS.



1Corinthians 6:9; Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13.



Now we are not at war with you. I believe the Lord is convicting you and you are blaming it on us.



That is alright, I am his Representative. I will be blamed for what my father is doing.



O.K. I TAKE BLAME FOR HOMOSEXUALS FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE WORD OF GOD.



GUESS WHAT CHRISTIANS FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE WORD OF GOD AS WELL. IT CAUSE US TO CHANGE.



SO, GOD IS DOING THE SAME THING FOR ALL OF MAN KIND. HE ASK ME NOT TO HAVE SEX BECAUSE I AM NOT MARRIED.



I AM NOT BLAMING THIS ON THE HOMOSEXUALS. SO, I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS WILL HELP YOU, BUT I HAD A REVELATION BY JUST PUTTING MY HAND TO THE KEYBOARD.



IF YOU CHOSE TO BE GAY, DO IT.



I CHOOSE TO DENY MY SELF SEXUAL PLEASURE, SO I CAN GET INTO HEAVEN.



YOU HAVE SEX WITH THE SAME SEX AND A REWARD WILL COME TO YOU AS WELL. IF YOU FEEL SO STRONG ABOUT BEING RIGHT, THEN CONTINUE TO DO IT AND SEE WHAT THE END IS GOING TO BE.



I AM WILLING TO RISK MY ETERNAL LIFE FOR IT. ARE YOU?



DO NOT HATE A SISTER BECAUSE SHE IS GIVING YOU WHAT YOU ASK FOR AND YOU STILL DO NOT LIKE IT. I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
Now, now. Christians do not hate gays. And we don't twist the words of the bible. Asked about what the bible says, we tell people what the bible says. Sorry it infuriates you so.
I don't hate gays. I just think it is unusual or below the norm. I never have seen a multitude of gays. When I do see them I can count them on my hands how many I have seen.
The Bible actually says that It is detestable. I think people twist their minds to justify what they want. What people want is not always good for them in the end.



Oh, did I just make a joke?
It allows them to justify their bigotry as a god-given right,, thereby dodging responsibility for their own actions
Because most Christians are Republicans!
jesus loves the gay, but he loves them too much to leave them there.



hate the sin, not the sinner :)
How is..... "a man should be joined to his wife and leave mother and father," twisting scripture ???





-- New Testament --
cause they are hateful and discriminating idiots.
read these 1Cor 6:9 and Romans 1-2
We Christians DON'T hate gays themselves. You read in the Bible you can find many different accounts where God destroyed whole cities because of their immoral behavior,(getting drunk, immoral sex--men with men,women with women), and finally he destroyed the earth except for Noah and his family because they followed Him. The homosexual "lifestyle" is what Gods' followers don't agree with. God made Adam, and then He made Eve so man would have a companion/mate. As for your comment about God "making gays that way" all I have to say is MALARKEY! I have a very good friend who USED TO BE gay. I remained his friend, studied the Bible with him, prayed about it lot, and today,in God's own time, that friend is now married to a very lovely lady, like me he has given up different 'vices' ie: smoking %26amp; drinking. I had one more hurdle to overcome--drugs when I was in my late teens. SO... when you tell yourself that you were 'born that way' YOU are the one who is kidding yourself. I pray for you. I have a question for You--why do you think Christians are "out-to-get-you"? We are a loving family of believers--at least those of us who really ARE Christians! There are a lot of people "professing"to be Christians.Watch out for those who will try to lead you astray, (ie: those who might say it's ok--it's your choice" yes,it's YOUR choice do you want to live it for the Lord or do you want to "Please the Crowd"--God DESIRES that ALL are saved and follow Him into Glory but WILL they? The Bible says,"narrow is the way, srtaight is the path that leads to righteousness. Also, all are called but few are chosen. I personally look forward to when I get to Heaven so I can see Jesus face-to-face. Why would I do anything that might jeopardize me walking with my Lord? Think on it--I'm tempted every day to go back to my old 'vices',"drugs,alcohol, smoking.etc..." Will I give in not likely--Once you're saved you desire to please the Lord--"old things will pass away"--see what I mean?
I haven't read any of the answers on this form yet, so I apologize if this is a bit redundant.



I'm a lesbian Christian who loves God. However, it's difficult for me to find any comfort among other Christians because they have been brought up to believe homosexuality is a sin. And who knows? Maybe it is. The point is it's unethical and unchristian to pick and choose from the bible the way so many do. If we followed all the text of Leviticus word for word then men could stone their wives and sell their children to slavery.



To any who rebuke this stating it is also in the New Testament...

The New Testament also contains passages from Paul saying women should not speak unless it is through their husbands.



My feud with the heterosexual fundamentalist Christians is their inability to open their eyes.

You can't pray away the gay.

Trust me... I've tried.



I battled homosexuality for years. I dated men, tried to block out thoughts, and prayed to God night after night.

The gay was still there.

It is in no way a choice. I would have never chosen this life.



So please, show some love for you Christian brothers and sisters and stop with the judging. Even Jesus wants you to lay off.



Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged ."



Throwing the first stone doesn't make you any better of a Christian.





I would also like to add this...

Throughout my life I have never felt an absence of God. Nor have I felt disapproval for the way that I am.

I have known I was homosexual from the time I hit puberty... It was either environmental or biological... But I was raised in a Conservative Christian family who believed strongly that homosexuality is a sin.

How could God create me, knowing full well I would be gay, and then convict me... Punish me for something I had no control over?



Do you want to believe God is like that?
leviticus something says you are not allowed to be gay, upon pain of death.





HOWEVER, what most Christians don't realize is, in the New Testament there is a passage that states all the Old Testament laws are void.



So gay-bashing Christians FAIL.
Yeah, those darn Christians.



Trying to prevent me from sharing my love with them boys.

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